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The NetRep's Job

The NetRep's Job

Postby Bandobras Took » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:39 pm

Remember, NetRep rulings are official. This does not necessarily mean they are correct.

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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby miguel » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:26 pm

And then I'd need to discuss them with you for 5 pages? No thanks.
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby Bandobras Took » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:21 pm

I didn't ask whether it would inconvenience the NetRep.

I asked whether it was better for the game and new players, and for the viability of the CoE as a whole.
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:25 pm

I always assumed that's why there was a NetRep team...

As with rl law, judges often create rules in the process of explaining them.
Thus it is in the CoE interest to work closely together with NetRep (team). Either a CoE member should be on the team, or the digest should be available to CoE before publishing it perhaps, just to avoid revoking a ruling later on.
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby miguel » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:26 pm

I thought the NetRep board is open for everyone to see now?
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby miguel » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:49 pm

@Eric:
Yes things are discussed within the NetRep team, but the team has only one spokesperson (NetRep). Every member of the team is of course free to take part in any discussions outside the NetRep board on rules or whatever, just like Konrad has been very actively doing.

I intend to let the team members read all digests before publishing (this has not been done before, and I always thought it should be) to make sure there aren't any mistakes. I have no problem doing the same with the CoE, but I will keep the rules discussions within the NetRep team, that's what the experts are there for.
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby Bandobras Took » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:48 am

Remember, NetRep rulings are official. This does not necessarily mean they are correct.

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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby miguel » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:15 am

Heh, are you complaining about a ruling I haven't even made yet? :wink:

I've said this before, a literal reading of the rules/cards can make you feel like there is contradiction everywhere. Because of the rather poor wording in some instances, the concept of MeCCG rules needs to be somewhat flexible. When necessary to bend them, I try to stay true to what I believe was ICE's intention. I used to play quite a lot in sanctioned events back when ICE was still around, with some excellent rules lawyers, so I believe I do have some knowledge of what I'm talking about. For example the One Ring victory: It has never been necessary to actually move with the ring in any sanctioned event I know of, so I am very hesitant to make it so now.

In many cases the rules can be interpreted in more than one way. But it is imperative to have only one official interpretation (I'm sure the new players you keep mentioning appreciate this), and that's why we have the NetRep. Of course, since it looks like CoE will soon be passing errata, any unclear cards/rules should be taken into consideration, to help remove any seeming contradictions between them and rulings.

The NetRep board is a closed discussion group, because that is the only way to get results. But the people outside of the team can do more than simply observe. You are allowed to contact me with any questions or point of views. I am very poor at answering heckling on public forums, but I try to help people understand rulings when I know they truly want to.
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:47 pm

@Mikko. Sure, didn't mean to imply everybody should join in the rules discussions, that would a never ending story indeed.

Just saying there are different aspects to rules issues, and NetRep (as any judge) usually takes the more formal approach and looks at rules sec., so having someone (CoE member perhaps) taking merely the wider ramifications for the game into account could be useful. Adding this as a step late in the process of decissionmaking/ruling seems ok, since most people (not even regular CoE members :wink: ) lay a close watch on the NetRep discussions, and aisb there's no need to interfere in such discussion per se.
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby Bandobras Took » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:12 pm

And again, I wouldn't mind rulings either way. It's the consistency issue rather than any specific ruling/decision. You mentioned not requiring One Ring movement at ICE-sanctioned events. Were there ICE-sanctioned events at which playing strike assignment cards on auto-attacks was allowed? How does this measure apply to one and not the other?

It's this above all that leads me to "heckle" in my effort to understand the rules. Jambo makes the same point in the character play discussion thread on the NetRep board. The game needs consistency to be healthy, when a person hears "Principle X applies here" and says, "Oh, then Principle X applies there," it doesn't do much for the game to hear, "No, it doesn't, because . . . I say so."
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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby miguel » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:21 pm

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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby Bandobras Took » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:18 pm

Remember, NetRep rulings are official. This does not necessarily mean they are correct.

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Re: The NetRep's Job

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Re: The NetRep's Job

Postby Bandobras Took » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:36 am

So the Council doesn't actually appoint the NetRep or approve a NetRep? What the devil does "maintain" in the charter mean, then?
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