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experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby thorondor » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:17 am

what do you think about having experts for specific tasks here in the COE board?
there are a couple of people i thinking of:
- the site admins for example (at least one)
- ted badiuk, who is known as THE trading guy. also he is willing to do some work that is needed.
- alex köhler, who is very skilled in illustrating. his support would be very helpful for the dreamcard and virtual projects.
- the netrep (mikko vihtemaki at the moment)
- anybody else?

of course all of them would do their work also if not part of the COE. but it would be easier for them when being part of the process and discussions.
ideas?
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:44 pm

Sure, I see no problem with that.
Though I also don't see the need for it currently, but it might change. For the moment this section is about general policy issues.

btw I don't know who has access, but others/old members seem to still have access, at least Darksatin posted recently here I seem to recall and he's no council member?
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby thorondor » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:51 pm

i have no idea who has access and who does not. there is a COE group that obviously has access, but this list is out of date.
look here:
memberlist.php?mode=group&g=33

maybe part of the COE forum is public?
i hope one of the admisn can shed some light on this soon.

btw: i got word from steffen, that he is in paris att he moment. will be in germany on thursday (only for a short time) and handle a few things (except one of the other admins (josh, mark) is faster)
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby marcos » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:53 pm

i like the idea
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby Shapeshifter » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:55 am

I say YES to the proposal. We can only benefit from these experts.
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby Bandobras Took » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:20 pm

Aye.
Remember, NetRep rulings are official. This does not necessarily mean they are correct.

You probably aren't playing Fallen Wizards .
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby Vastor Peredhil » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:44 am

great AYE

I would also have wigy & karmi in here as well

one as the GCCG programmer
the other as MSE add on programmer

and maybe even wlk and he is a grat help with GCCG as well

maybe even more . . .

yours Nicolai
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby thorondor » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:57 pm

alright, thre is a general consense.
so before i start adding experts here and there, i will nominate section leaders.
right now we have those section (leaders in brackets):

- gccg (wigy)
- rules&rulings (netrep: mikko vihtemaki?)
- judge certification project (mark alfano)
- marketplace (ted badiuk)
- arda (joe bisz, eric dane)
- dreamcards (nico willinek, eric dane)
- virtual cards (joe bisz, eric dane)


anything else? anything to correct?

those who are in charge of a section may have other experts added. right now there are already several people part of these section. i had a quick look at those lists, and honestly: most of them seem to be out of date. if changes are wnated here, jsut tell me ...
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby marcos » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:03 pm

Virtual cards: Marcos, Jambo
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby Bandobras Took » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:07 pm

I highly recommend Konrad Klar as a rules expert. I often disagree with his conclusions, but his understanding of the rules and their flaws is flawless. :)
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:17 pm

Not sure what you mean here with sections and section leaders.
My proposal would be to appoint to each CoE project a CoE member (or 2) as a leader, responsible for pulling the cart. He can then summon support and bring in experts and function as coordinator.
For example:

-Rulings/Errata: Ben (leader), expert: Mikko (NetRep), Mark (former rep.)
-Website: Marcos (leader), expert: Josh?
-Charter rewrite: Wolfgang/Eric (Bruno?)
-gccg: Nicolai (leader), expert: wigy/wlk

something like that. This of course doesn't discharge other CoE members to put in their cents. In other words: Joe Bisz, waky waky rise and shine?!?!
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby thorondor » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:56 pm

i was rather compiling the status quo as it has shown to me here in the forum. thus i waas using the term "section", but its about the same things as your "projects" more or less.
but i like you system better anyway. so there should be a COE member in chrage of the project; not necessarrily the expert, but at least with some insight. good. 2 would even be better in case one is absent.

so lets have a list of projects first, before appointing leaders and experts:
- Rulings/Errata
- Website
- Charter rewrite
- gccg
- players directory
- prizes (COE packages for tourenys)
- promoting the game
- dreamcards
- virtual cards
- UEP
- JCP
- marketplace
- national councils
- newsletter
- deck section/play tipps in the forum

anything else??
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby thorondor » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:01 pm

guess its best that each of us says which of the projects he would like to to join.
here are my picks:

- players directory
- prizes (COE packages for tourenys)
- promoting the game
- marketplace
- national councils
- newsletter

quite a lot, but in most of them i am already quite involved anyway.
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Re: experts as non-voting members in the COE

Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:40 pm

I'm available (or most useful) for:
-Charter rewrite
-Dreamcards
-Virtual Cards
-UEP
-national councils

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