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Daelomin at Home is discarded

Postby kober » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:09 pm

We know that “A card is not in play until it is resolved in its chain of effects. When the play of a card is declared, no elements of the card may be the target of actions declared in the same chain of effects”, so let’s assume that Daelomin at Home permanent event is already in play.

Now, what would be the outcome in the following two scenarios:
1) During M/H phase, Marvels Told is declared, and a sage has tapped to target said DaH. Would the discard be with effect (+2 HL)? Or, could a discard of DaH be declared by the Hazard player is response to the declaration of MT?
2) During M/H phase, a discard of said DaH for effect is declared and since “If an action requires an entity to be discarded as a condition for the action's main effect, that entity must be discarded when the action is declared” it’s discarded. Is there a way to stop this?
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Re: Daelomin at Home is discarded

Postby Konrad Klar » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:44 pm

We will not speak of such things even in the morning of the Shire.
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Re: Daelomin at Home is discarded

Postby kober » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:31 pm

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Re: Daelomin at Home is discarded

Postby Konrad Klar » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:15 pm

Correct.
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Re: Daelomin at Home is discarded

Postby kober » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:13 pm

Now, if Marvels Told were declared during any phase other than M/H (and a sage did tap to target DaH) would there be anything that the Hazard Player could do to prevent MT from resolving?
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Re: Daelomin at Home is discarded

Postby Konrad Klar » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:28 pm

Blind to the West, Twilight (if for unusual reason Marvels Told has been played with Crown of Flowers, or if a resource, that makes the sage a sage, has been played with Crown of Flowers).
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