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Freeze the flesh

Postby panotxa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:22 pm

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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby Konrad Klar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:13 pm

The card cannot be played at all, at least not with current card set.
Because it is "Playable on a character that was eliminated by a body check this turn if a shadow‐magic‐using character is in his company."
To fulfill this condition a target should be eliminated earlier in current turn, then returned to play by hypothetical effect (directly to the shadow‐magic‐using character's company, or join it later).

Nevertheless a cards may be played after reconciling hand in End-of-Turn Phase. Reconciling takes place in End-of-Turn Phase, not at the end of turn. End of turn takes place when End-of-Turn Phase ends.
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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby panotxa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:04 pm

Thanks Konrad,
If the card is strictly interpretated it's not playable at all, but I imagine that it doesn't make sense to create a card that is not playable at all... I can imagine the idea behind the bad writing (the aim of the card) but if I play this card anybody can argue that is not playable at all and he'll be right... what should my next step be? Ask for a ruling/erratum to the netrep? Or forget about the card...?
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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby Konrad Klar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:49 pm

Treat:
"Playable on a character that was eliminated by a body check this turn if a shadow‐magic‐using character is
in his company. Return the character to the company and tap him."
as:
" Playable on a character that was eliminated by a body check this turn if you have a shadow‐magic‐using character. Return the character to the shadow‐magic‐using character's company and tap him."

and agree with your play group such treatment of the card.

This would be de facto an errata. If you care about approval of some body that claims to be official, then request that body for making such errata.
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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby panotxa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:28 pm

Thanks Konrad,
Maybe the rephrasing should state that you can return the "zombi" character to the shadow-magic-using character's company only if both characters were part of the same company when the former was eliminated. What do you think?
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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby Konrad Klar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:05 pm

Maybe.

Then:
"Playable on a character that was eliminated by a body check this turn if a shadow‐magic‐using character is in his company."
should be changed to:
"Playable on a character that was eliminated by a body check this turn if you have a shadow‐magic‐using character that was in his last company."

I think that simply changing "is" to "was" would not be enough. It would allow to return a character eliminated by a body check this turn which was at some point in the same company with shadow‐magic‐using character, but not when he has been eliminated.
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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby panotxa » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:41 am

I would add "this turn" at the end of the sentence :) I'll play it this way and if somebody doesn't like it I'll send them to this forum :roll:
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EDIT: no need to add "this turn", is stated before in the sentence, sorry!
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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby Konrad Klar » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:51 pm

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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby Jose-san » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:54 pm

I like Konrad's proposal. I dislike the notion that cards keep any kind of "status" when they leave play.
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Re: Freeze the flesh

Postby Konrad Klar » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:25 pm

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