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Snaga-hai

Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:15 am

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Re: Snaga-hai

Postby Bandobras Took » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:25 pm

It applies to only the card in play.

This is because the card in your hand contains the exact same text, which means that the number can only go to 0 for that card once it is in play, as well.
Remember, NetRep rulings are official. This does not necessarily mean they are correct.

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Re: Snaga-hai

Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:59 pm

Personally I fully agree.
But if that is so, then I was robbed of a victory (and a place in the finals), but there were some very experienced players present who ruled otherwise, so is there really no hint of controversy here?
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Re: Snaga-hai

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:45 pm

In multiplayer game two players have one copy of Snaga-hai in play each. If third player want to influence away Snaga-hai of one of his opponents, he must specify whether he is influencing this faction (of player A), or this faction (of player B); mere declaration My character is trying to influence away Snaga-hai is not unambiguous.

Like in case of unique faction where distinction between between "influencing a faction X" and "influencing a particular copy of faction X" is insignificant, in case of multiple copies of the same non-unique faction in play belonging to different players the distinction is essential (whose unused GI will be subtracted from check, which copy will be eventually discarded).
It is also essential due to cards like Tribute Garnered, or One Dear To You (also in two-player games), which are played on particular copy of faction, not "on named faction".
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Re: Snaga-hai

Postby Bandobras Took » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:59 pm

I thought all controversies died when the NetRep did. ;)

Multiple copies of Deep Mines are not the same site.

Multiple copies of non-unique characters are not the same character.

Multiple copies of a faction are not the same faction.

See also Hour of Need. "This faction" refers to a single faction, even if there are multiple non-unique factions by that name in play.

See also Barrow Blade: "play this with the Dagger" does not mean that all copies of Barrow Blade are played with the Dagger.
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Re: Snaga-hai

Postby Jose-san » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:37 pm

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Re: Snaga-hai

Postby Konrad Klar » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:06 pm

In situation in question at least one copy of Snaga-hai is already in play.
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