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roadblock cards

Postby peril returned » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:58 am

Hi everyone

I have just started trying the roadblock cards and they have thrown up a few questions that I hope you can answer.

If a snowstorm is in play, can I "attempt" to move and draw cards, have hazards played on me and then return to my site of origin? Or is it that once snowstorm is in play, you cannot leave your site if it is in a wilderness (or would have a wilderness in the site path) and therefore cannot draw cards.

Further, if a long winter or foul fumes is in play (and a snowstorm if necessary) if I am returned to my site of origin, does it also tap the site I was travelling to if it meets the requirements of the winter/fumes and therefore discarded, or can I return it to my location deck.

Thanks very much for your help.
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Re: roadblock cards

Postby Muad'Dib » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:03 am

-> Snowstorm

First you move, draw cards and bounce. Opponent cant play creatures against you

-> Long Winter/Foul Fumes
You tap all revealed sites in play, including these where you were moving and these you were leaving.
IMustNotFear.FearIsTheMind-Killer.FearIsTheLittle-death ThatBringsTotalObliteration.IWillFaceMyFear.
IWillPermitItToPassOverMeAndThroughMe.
AndWhenItHasGonePast,IWillTurnTheInnerEyeToSeeItsPath.
WhereTheFearHasGoneThereWillBeNothing. OnlyIWillRemain.
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Re: roadblock cards

Postby Konrad Klar » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:09 am

The actions created by cards like Snowstorm, or Long Winter (i.e. "return a company to its site of origin", "tap a sites with [-me_wi-] [-me_wi-] in its site path") do not happen immediately.
When conditions that activate the actions are met (which may happen at the start of M/H phase, or in middle of chain of effects), the actions are declared as first action of next chain of effects.
Order of the declarations (if there is more than one such action) is choosen by player proceding its turn.
So players may declare in response to the actions anything that does not need to be first declared action of chain of effects (no creatures, no other actions that cause immediate attack(s), no corruption cards), before the action will resolve.
If the card that cause the action will be removed before the action will resolve, and/or if the condition that activate the action (e.g. [-me_wi-] in company's site path) will be removed before the action will resolve, the action will be canceled.

In particular case when "return a company to its site of origin" and "tap a sites with [-me_wi-] [-me_wi-] (or with [-me_sl-] [-me_sl-]) in its site path)", are declared as first of actions of chain of effect, whether new site will be tapped, or not, will depend on order of declarations.
If "tap sites" is declared a first, and "return to the site of origin" as second, the site will be removed from table when the company will be returned.
The action "tap sites" will not affect it.
(Assuming that the company has been actually returned, and that there is no effect that keep the site on table, e.g. the site was not the site already on table choosen as new site in organization phase for any moving company).
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Re: roadblock cards

Postby peril returned » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:59 am

Thanks for the responses guys!
My brain did melt a little with the conditions/actions/declarations/chain of effects.
But now I understand that if I'm snowstormed I can at least draw some cards in hopes of getting out of it somehow.
Thanks again
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