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Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Muad'Dib » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:20 pm

I heard many times Half-orcs are worth 2MP for fallen Pallando. But i think its wrong interpretation.

[quote=White Hand rules book]MARSHALLING POINTS - Marshalling points for stage resource cards are handled normally (i.e. as printed on the card). However, all other marshalling point cards are only worth 1 marshalling point each to a Fallen-wizard (regardless of their printed value). These MPs can not be modified by a hero or minion resource event (e.g. Rumor of the One, Tribute Garnered, Sentinels of Númenor, etc.). However, Fallen-wizard abilities and stage resource cards can modify the number of marshalling points certain cards give.[/quote]

What i see is stage resources give points printed on the cards. Only other sources of points can be modified by fallen-wizards abilities and stage resources.

I think its obvious or am i wrong?
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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:20 pm

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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Bandobras Took » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:03 pm

The standard definition for "normal" is "as written on the card, not considering other cards' effects."

Therefore, if marshalling points for Stage Resources are handled normally, you do it in a manner that does not consider MP modifications from other cards. Fallen Pallando is another card. Therefore, his effect is not considered with regard to the MP total of Stage Resource factions, because those, by rule, are handled normally.
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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Konrad Klar » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:37 pm

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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Bandobras Took » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:54 am

Remember, NetRep rulings are official. This does not necessarily mean they are correct.

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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Konrad Klar » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:51 am

Before any modifications, how are handled:
a) MPs from minion resources controlled by minion player,
b) MP from hero item controlled by minion player
?

If answers are:
for (a) - "normally",
for (b) - "The item is only worth half (round up) of its normal marshalling points",
does it prevent (a) or (b) from being further modified?

If answers are different, then sorry for bothering.
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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Bandobras Took » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:28 pm

The answer, by rule, is:

"The item is only worth half (round up) of its normal marshalling points."

The MPs can of course be further modified.

The answer cannot be "normally" in the game sense, because the word is not used in the rule, nor can it be "normally" in the more generic sense, because this is stated as an exception.
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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Muzgash » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:36 pm

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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Konrad Klar » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:07 pm

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Re: Half-orcs + fallen Pallando

Postby Bandobras Took » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:30 pm

Good point.
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