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Skin-changer

Postby zirilan » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:44 am

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Re: Skin-changer

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:52 pm

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Re: Skin-changer

Postby kober » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:03 pm

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Re: Skin-changer

Postby Bandobras Took » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:48 pm

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Re: Skin-changer

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:23 pm

If it would be possible to assign an already assigned strike to other character, then Skin-changer, or Many Foes He Fought would overcome One Foe to Breed a War, Deftness of Agility, Half An Eye Open.
Also someone could wait until all strikes of attack will be assigned and then play Deftness of Agility (preferably to reassign a strike already assigned to bearer of Wormsbane to weakest of characters already assigned a strike).
Or play One Foe to Breed a War on character not assigned a strike just when all strikes of attack are assigned and then unassign strongest character.
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Re: Skin-changer

Postby kober » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:01 am

So, trying to answer my question: Radagast is not tapped, thus the first (out of two) strike is assigned to him and the remaining strike gets assigned to (wounded) Beorn. Skin-changer may still be played (+2/+2 bonus), however, since there are no unassigned strikes left, Beorn is limited to facing just a single strike from the attack. Correct?
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Re: Skin-changer

Postby Konrad Klar » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:33 am

My answer is "yes".

Rules do not forbid explicitly a reassigning an already assigned strikes, but they do not provide any procedure that would regulate such process.
Who would decide a which of already assigned strikes will be unassigned? Player who uses a special ability? Player who is first to choose a defending characters? Other options (there are scenarios where some strikes are forcefully assigned to certain characters, and some other are assigned by players)?
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Re: Skin-changer

Postby Bandobras Took » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:36 pm

My first impulse would be to say the player of the card initiating the effect would be the one to choose.
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Re: Skin-changer

Postby kober » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:11 am

If the already-assigned strikes cannot be reassigned, I can imagine three scenarios for the following story.

The background:
Character A, Beorn, Character C, all three being tapped (and holding Cram), have just moved to a site with two-strike automatic attack.

The players:
- Resource (RP), with Skin-changer on his hand,
- Hazard (HP).

Scenario #1:
- RP: "The company is entering the site."
- HP: "First strike to Character A, second to Beorn."
- RP: "Doh."

Scenario #2:
- RP: "The company is entering the site."
- HP: "First strike to Beorn, second to Character A."
- RP: "Skin-changer!"
- HP: "Too late! Strikes cannot be reassigned."
- RP: "Doh."

Scenario #3:
- RP: "The company is entering the site."
- HP: "First strike to Beorn, ..."
- RP: "Skin-changer!"
- HP: "Doh."

Should the outcome depend on the order in which the character names are mentioned? Or how quick the strikes are assigned?
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Re: Skin-changer

Postby Konrad Klar » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:28 am

If the already-assigned strikes cannot be reassigned, it depends on fact whether there are remaining unassigned strikes and remaining target characters.
When HP is first to choose a defending characters, Skin-changer's ability is less useful (still a strike which would be otherwise excess strike may taken by Beorn).
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