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Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Mordakai » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:49 am

Hi everybody, question for you: How does "Eddy in Fate's Tide interact with the Worthy Hills? Options:

a) Eddy overrides Worthy Hills and taps them when played.
b) Worthy hills override Eddy and remains untapped. Multiple Eddy's can be played, as it is not stated "cannot be duplicated on a given place".
c) As tapping the Worthy Hills is part of the "cost" of the card, and the Worthy Hills cannot be tapped, Eddy cannot be played (doesn't make sense for me, other cards with that requirement can be played there, Maker's Map, for example)
d) Any other option I can't imagine... :roll:

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Ringbearer » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:22 am

Considering how the Red Hills deck works, I would say Eddy doesnt tap the site.
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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Mordakai » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:44 am

Yes, I think B) is the correct one, but as Red Hills usually includes Maker's Map and Tempest of Fire but not this one, it made me think about the "never untaps for you" thing. Most probably the reason is the Balrog movement to the Worthy Hills being difficult, and not a rules problem...
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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:24 pm

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby dirhaval » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:11 am

I am guessing that this resource on Mount Doom hinders someone testing a gold ring item
and play a ring as a result and for someone to influence the One Ring away from a hobbit
at Mount Doom so the winner of the One Ring has to play the item.

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Bandobras Took » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:39 pm

It will not hinder the test, but will hinder the play of a Gold Ring Item as a result of the test. It will also hinder influencing items/allies away.
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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:07 pm

It will not hinder the playing a special item ring.
Special item ring is played by company at site, but it is not played at site. It also may be played by moving company, but it is not "played moving", per analogy.
After all, is not FW company at hero site able to play Magic Ring of Enigma (after testing Bright Gold Ring)?
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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:24 pm

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Bandobras Took » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:15 am

If the company is at the site, and an item is played with that company, they must first tap two characters during the site phase. Come to think of it, I'm not sure how this would work with items played during the organization phase (e.g. Cup of Farewell on a Hidden Haven). Are they completely disallowed?

I'm not sure that the distinction of playing at the site vs. just playing is really delineated in the rules/cards; can you think of other examples?
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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Konrad Klar » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:30 am

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Bandobras Took » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:07 pm

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Konrad Klar » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:46 pm

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Bandobras Took » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:31 pm

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Re: Eddy in Fate's Tide

Postby Konrad Klar » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:52 pm

Some analogy:
Gold Ring Items may be tested by characters in companies at site, or by characters in companies not at site (moving). And Special Ring Items may be played in result of test in both cases.
So site is not required to play Special Ring Items.

Some test cards however require site (e.g. Ringlore).
Can you say that the same Special Ring Item that could be played in result Test of Form, now requires a site, because Ringlore that allows to play the Special Ring Item requires site?
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