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Re: Nature's Revenge

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Postby Jambo » Mon May 19, 2008 12:44 pm

Ah ha, I see.

Something like this perhaps:

Nature's Revenge
Bring an eliminated Awakened Plant creature into play if it could attack the company. The creature immediately attacks the company (not counting against the hazard limit) and the attack receives +1 strike, -4 body, and chooses defending characters (if used on a trophy the bearer of the trophy must be assigned a strike). If the creature is defeated, place Nature’s Revenge in opponent’s marshalling point pile and he receives 2 marshalling points. Discard Nature’s Revenge and the creature if it is not defeated.
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Postby marcos » Mon May 19, 2008 9:35 pm

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Postby Jambo » Tue May 20, 2008 12:10 pm

Ok, going back to 1 MP, how about the following:

Nature's Revenge
Bring an eliminated Awakened Plant creature into play if it could attack the company. The creature immediately attacks the company (not counting against the hazard limit) and the attack receives -2 body and chooses defending characters (+1 strike if Huorn). If the creature was a trophy, the bearer of the trophy must be assigned a strike. If the creature is defeated, place Nature’s Revenge in opponent’s marshalling point pile and he receives 1 marshalling point. Discard Nature’s Revenge and the creature if it is not defeated.

Do you still want the bearer of a trophy to receive a strike?
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Postby Jambo » Tue May 20, 2008 8:51 pm

OR:

Nature's Revenge
Bring an eliminated Awakened Plant creature into play if it could attack the company (may also be used on an Awakened Plant trophy). The creature immediately attacks the company (not counting against the hazard limit) and the attack receives -2 body and chooses defending characters (+1 strike if Huorn). If the creature was a trophy, the bearer of the trophy must be assigned a strike. If the creature is defeated, place Nature’s Revenge in opponent’s marshalling point pile and he receives 1 marshalling point. Discard Nature’s Revenge and the creature if it is not defeated.
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Postby Frodo » Tue May 20, 2008 9:23 pm

Let's avoid "bringing into play," then, and merely say: "Playable on an eliminated Awakened Plant creature that could normally attack the company. The creature immediately attacks (not counting against the hazard limit)...." Or however such things are worded--In Great Wrath, etc.

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Postby Jambo » Tue May 20, 2008 9:42 pm

Can a card that's been removed from play have a card played on it?

Ref. Returned Beyond All Hope for an example.
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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Tue May 20, 2008 11:19 pm

Personally I don't think extra strike for Old Man is over the top, the CS extra attack is easily cancelled, all that's left is a true fire drake. But, since mostly it'll be huorns in the dead pile anyway, and I agree that for Ent it's harsh, I can go with it.

about the out of play target: haven't got a clue, it seems unlikely indeed. The eliminated Elf/Maia go to the mp pile, so that's different. Boy, that would be a bummer...
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Postby Jambo » Wed May 21, 2008 6:02 am

I think the wording I've used would be ok: "Bring an eliminated..." I just don't think: "Playable on..." would work.

I also wouldn't mind Old Man Willow receiving the extra strike.
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