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Council of Elrond • View topic - Re Open to the summons

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Postby Jambo » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:01 am

Yes, you would need to say "Undeeps or Mountain(s)" to cover all these cards. Here's the list:
The Misty Mountain Deeps
The Ash Mountain Deeps
The Mountains of Shadow Deeps
The Undeeps of Anduin
The White Mountain Cavern-ways

Almost a shame this doesn't work for regular minion. ;)
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Postby marcos » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:13 pm

add to the list:

Misty mountain wargs
white mountain wolves
grey mountain goblins
orcs of the ash mountains
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Postby Jambo » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:19 am

Saruman has to tap to take spells from the discard and how often do you see that being used? Not very often since he'll often be tapped. Most wizard helper cards tap the card, but then only take from the discard.

So I'd say you could do one of two things:

1. Tap the card to take cards from the discard.

2. Tap the character to take from either.

I'd be inclined to go for the second option since the first option is quite powerful once the player gets them to the discard.
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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:30 am

the issue is whether you want him to use it from turn 1, not just whether the guy must be able to tap each turn to get it.
I'd say Tidings is pretty good for Baduila because the rolls for men factions are all like >9 and he has no guy with good influence, so he needs to blow a helper card (threats) and this being a combo you don't want to blow it on a bad roll. Swag normal won't do much, but Swag V is a powercard for him, and a perm. so he only needs tap once for it.

So, if you get this from turn one, it offers really great advantages to deckbuilding and management. I'm saying it's a bit big for just a guy, and an alignment that's already stronger than others. If it would be for the avatarless Balrog that would be another matter.

nb. it also doesn't work on Saruman because he's the main guy. Baduila in effect doesn't have to do much other than being present, being strong and avoiding rivers, any strong orc/hill troll can play Threats. If Saruman could grab a card that's useful without him using it, it could work very well actually, he could just squat with Cirdan at Grey Havens. In effect, Baduila can sit with the Balrog and just tap to give -2 hazard each turn for a burning company. Quite the investment, but a great Shadow can suffer it, and he is 3 mp's also, plus he doesn't hit you as agent...

nb. fw retrievers get it in end of turn (most of them), which means you not only need to hold it a full turn, but also estimate which of the options will be more useful! how does that compare with grabbing it any time and from deck?

I see more options:
-Tap in org phase to get from discard. You can make choice to tap him no matter what, but you need hogg in play to get card or have several in deck.
-Tap in site phase or later to get from deck/discard. Opponent gets chance to the tap guy.
-Tap Summons, increase hl by 2 to untap. (or something to counter that power).

Personally I'd go with 2nd option, I don't feel Baduila should need to tap each turn, he can make some effort to remain untapped, he can use the card straight away, and opponent gets his chances to prevent it.

@leader: yes it would be little good if he then needs Orders from the Deamon, that's why I proposed leader that can be in comp. with other leaders. That too good? I think he needs the leader abilty, for tactics and thematics. Also if he's got any plan to be avatar backup, he needs to be leader.
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Postby Jambo » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:46 am

Thorsten,

that's what Joe was proposing:

"During the end-of-turn phase, you may tap Baduila to take Swag, Tidings of Death, or The Misty Mountain Deeps into hand from your discard pile."

End of turn phase. :)
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