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The Witch-king Unleashed - suggestion

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Postby Jambo » Tue May 20, 2008 9:48 pm

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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Tue May 20, 2008 11:08 pm

I would skip darkhaven altogether and be done with the fuss, Witch-king will totally dominate TRT, you'd be mad to play another guy, I think that's a pitty. Also, don't underestimate the power of Fiery/Morgul blades...bit strange to tap any RW for a card played on the WK :roll:
But, I haven't been really involved with this one, so it's just my 2 cents :wink:
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Postby Jambo » Wed May 21, 2008 6:10 am

Morgul Blade and Fiery Blade aren't cards explicitly reserved for the Witch-king. Any RW can make use of them (particularly Morgul Blade).

I'm not bothered if the Witch-king is used to dominate TRT. He's the Black captain after all, and I think it's rather wishful thinking to expect all RWs to have (or to be given) an equally feasible chance at achieving this mission-esq card. All imo of course.

I did have a crazy thought...

What would this card be like if it were playable on the Witch-king even if he wasn't your RW? Potentially too massive for Khamul, but what about others? :)
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Postby marcos » Wed May 21, 2008 9:01 pm

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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Wed May 21, 2008 10:00 pm

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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Thu May 22, 2008 10:00 am

Man, now I have to dive into this after all :wink:
I should have been clearer, you can't get the nine together in fell rider of corse, but if Khamul goes for it in black rider he still has a benifit over WK in that his card is a perm and you can start with one. Of course you might recycle WKU alot, but I suppose KU is better for timing issues. I just had not considerend you might play KU without any intention of playing fell rider, it seems unnatural to the card...

Wether WKU as follower is too strong or wether, as you say, this strategy (TRT) 'needs the little boost', I truly don't know because I havent played it and it is a rather big strat. Marcos keeps insisting getting the nine is virtually (hehe) impossible, so I take his word for it. If you go for it with Khamul, I suppose WKU won't be even in deck. But, maybe it'll make TRT more of an easier side-strategy that you use in longer games, then you don't have to set it up straight away, you get your mojo going when you got nr. 1 and 2 in play.

I'm not sure what playing WKU as follower means to other RW strategies. I suppose in general its always useful to catch the Blades and use the Crown, but as far as grabbing followers at havens, outside TRT? It's always useful to have an extra guy of course, and you don't have to worry about them being discarded on bodycheck anymore, but to get WKU from sideboard for this...

If it is to go between the darkhaven playability and the follower playability, I'd prefer, hmmm, don't know. Both seems too much of an alround booster. Though I prefer WK as active guy and not as TRT helper, I'd still prefer haven playability. I'm scared of the Blades and Crown.

Btw. Khamul is, supposedly because it's all a guess, keeper of Dol Goldur and nr. 2. So, what if he is follower of nr. 3 Dwar, would he not temporarily be giving over command also, maintaining his unleashed ability? or is this feat only reserved for the supreme leader, well next to supreme of course, only the orders from Lugburz are definite :wink:
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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Thu May 22, 2008 8:13 pm

Am I mistaken? Where would you get the influence? Well you can play Words of Menace every turn, or Honey on Tongue...you need the horses, and they don't function with Fell Rider.
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