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Council of Elrond • View topic - Fixing Fallen Saruman

Fixing Fallen Saruman

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Postby Bandobras Took » Thu May 15, 2008 1:08 pm

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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Thu May 15, 2008 1:27 pm

Or we can decide to have UEP rules in virtual tourneys. :wink:
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Postby Jambo » Thu May 15, 2008 2:03 pm

We plan to work with Ringlore, so that should be very desirable. Why does Lordly Presence suck? Is it not helpful for bringing into play Half Orcs and Uruk-hai? First of the Order would be useful, maybe even more so for the original version.

Not sure how UEPs figure with virtuals, but my guess is things would get seriously complicated. May of the RW UEPs are no longer as important now that many cards have been designed to promote active RWs.
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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Thu May 15, 2008 2:38 pm

Well, departing from the assumption that most players who accept UEP rules would also welcome/accept virtuals, there is no problem, any conflicting UEP's can be changed/abandoned. I don't think there are that many though, if any, maybe the rw/nazgul ones are less needed but not necessarily conflicting.
However, accepting UEP's in virtual play is more difficult, as I remember there was more politics involved some time ago.
Oh well, it's just a thought, you know I don't like those separate worlds :wink:
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Postby Bandobras Took » Thu May 15, 2008 3:28 pm

Lordly Presence sucks because factions just aren't worth much to Fallen Saruman in terms of MPs. Given that Ringlore (or, if I had my way, Secrets of Their Forging) would help with Ring-gathering, I'd prefer some kind of support card that works with his abilities. For example, Look More Closely Later opens up some interesting options.
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Postby marcos » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:22 pm

there is already a version of ringlore being tested in preliminar VC2
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Postby BoderHamster » Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:58 am

can you give me the gametext?
i cannot find it anywhere....
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Postby marcos » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:35 pm

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Postby Bandobras Took » Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:44 pm

After a few games with the Fallen Saruman VC2 cards, I think we've hit about the right balance with the cards we have -- the Virtual Ringlore/Secrets of Their Forging make him absolutely brutal with an active Ring gathering deck (using non-Virtual Fallen Saruman, to boot), and the extended options for MPs provided by his Virtual version are as versatile as I hoped (I cannot begin to express what a relief it is for him to be able to get 3 MPs from factions). Any more would probably be over the top, I think.
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