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Re In Darkness Bind Them

Postby Jambo » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:57 pm

In Darkness Bind Them
Unique. Playable on The Will of Sauron or a non-environment, non-unique hazard long-event. The first attempt to discard the targeted hazard event discards this card instead.

Now, the question here is regarding what would happen when IDBT is played on WoS and WoS is indirectly discarded through for example DoN leaving play.

Would the text on WoS, which states it has to be discarded when DoN leaves play, continue activating resulting in first IDBT and then WoS being discarded? Or, would IDBT get discarded and WoS remain in play even though DoN has gone?

If the latter, would adding 'directly' to 'The first attempt to directly cancel or discard the targeted hazard event discards this card instead' make any difference?

(I asked the same question to Konrad. He's a rules guru.)
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Postby Jambo » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:16 pm

Big question is do we want WoS to be discarded when a GoM or Twilight is played to remove the accompanying DoN? As it stands, an IDBT played on a WoS would protect it from being discarded when DoN leaves play.

If this is viewed as being undesirable or potentially too powerful then something to this effect could be added:

"The first resource effect that targets to discard the target hazard event discards this card instead."

This would continue to protect a WoS from a MT or VoM or Palantir of Osgiliath, but it would not protect it from its own self-discarding condition if DoN should leave play.

Thoughts?
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Postby Bandobras Took » Mon May 19, 2008 4:05 am

Actually, I have no clue what I was thinking, either. Please ignore that whole Twilight comment as the product of a deranged mind. :)
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