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Council of Elrond • View topic - Black Rider, They Ride Together and Heralded Lord V

Black Rider, They Ride Together and Heralded Lord V

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Postby Bandobras Took » Wed May 27, 2009 1:29 pm

I think we can trust marcos when it comes to comments on deck building. ;)
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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Wed May 27, 2009 1:35 pm

The idea is that BR gets you horses. But, I don't see a problem with stacking a BR, even if this means you can thus get 3 BR V in first turn I suppose, and thus also 6 horses by turn 2, the bottleneck remains getting the rw's together I suppose (though now you only need 6, which with KU V is not that difficult).

Why would you need 3x BR for TRT?
before you also needed 3x TRT for the full 9 mp's, so nothing changed there. And you can drop them just like that.
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Postby Leon » Wed May 27, 2009 1:41 pm

For a single RW you can just start with a single Black Horse and move. I fail to see the problem.
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Postby marcos » Wed May 27, 2009 2:02 pm

@ Eric: you need 3 black rider to pull all the horses quickly enough (1 horse per black rider per turn) and i didn't mean that black rider V should get more black riders V, the idea was to allow black rider V to get non-Virtual black rider from sb.

@ Leon: Its not the same, you have to waste 1 turn squatting at the haven to get the horse AND you can't do sb that turn because you need to be untapped to play the horse, with black rider you are not wasting such turn.
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Postby Bandobras Took » Wed May 27, 2009 2:13 pm

I agree with marcos.
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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Wed May 27, 2009 2:26 pm

well unless specifically excluded, you could get BR V via BR then, but either way is fine I suppose.
You say you need 3xBR, but that is a matter of competitiveness and choice, if you play some rings you can have 6 horses by turn 5 easily with one BR, and to get 6 or more rw before turn 5 is asking alot...but, if you want to make it two horses, or use the BR road, it's ok with me.
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Postby marcos » Wed May 27, 2009 2:51 pm

that is why i specified non-Virtual Black rider ;)

But yes, i guess either way is fine because the bottleneck is still drawing into the RWs soon enough, so:

Permanent event. During your organization phase (or immediately after a ring is played), you may place a Black Horse or Black Rider from your sideboard with this card. Such cards may be played as if in hand. If at least half your Ringwraiths control a Black Horse, their company is in Black Rider mode and may move to non-Darkhaven sites. You may start the game with this card in lieu of a minor item.

Regarding TRT, now that black rider can get other black riders from sb i guess TRT can remain the same (just run 1 black rider as starting, put the other 2 at sb and the 3 TRT to deck, or something like that :lol: )
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Postby Thorsten the Traveller » Thu May 28, 2009 1:50 pm

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