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Hermit's Hill vs Hidden Haven

Postby Manuel » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:22 am

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Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:45 am

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Postby Konrad Klar » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:08 pm

Hidden Haven played on Framsburg does not prevent from playing minor items with help of Bounty of The Hoard. You agree?
For Bounty of The Hoard, a site merely must contain hoard and must be tapped. Minor/major item does not need be playable there.
For Thorough Search item does not need be playable too. It must only normally be playable.

Hidden Haven (nor anything else) cannot change normal values, abilities, playability conditions etc. It only can change current values, abilities, playability condition etc.

If something is playable/unplayable it is playable/unplayable in general - never playable for one player and unplayable for others.
For minion players Gollum cannnot be played at Moria, but Gollum is still playable at Moria. CRF, Rulings by Term, Wizardhaven proves this statemet as that it says about characters (that are not playable in any way and may be only played at site).

Summing up:
Hidden Haven, Mischief in A Mean Way, Chamber in The Royal Court does not prevent from playing of anything. It only makes certain card not playable at site.

Guarded Haven, Fortress of The Towers, The Fortress of Isen does not change of playability conditions. It only prevents opponent from playing certain cards at site.

Normal remains unchanged in all cases.
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Postby Konrad Klar » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:12 pm

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Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:04 am

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Postby Wacho » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:29 am

I think Konrad is right here. You can still discard the items to make something normally playable. Hidden Haven however negates all playability.
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Postby zarathustra » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:19 am

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Re: Hermit's Hill vs Hidden Haven

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