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Re: Farmer Maggot vs. Assassin

Postby miguel » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:56 am

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Re: Farmer Maggot vs. Assassin

Postby Konrad Klar » Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:31 pm

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Re: Farmer Maggot vs. Assassin

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Re: Farmer Maggot vs. Assassin

Postby Konrad Klar » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:31 pm

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Re: Farmer Maggot vs. Assassin

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Re: Farmer Maggot vs. Assassin

Postby Konrad Klar » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:34 pm

Thanks. I asked for justification of your statement and I got it. :)

[collateral]
Now I can only believe in validity of that justification or not.
I have some doubts.
It is an authoritative statement.
It is a messy.
"Once the chain of effects that creates the attack is fully resolved, creating the attack, the event has done its job, so to speak."
We can have series of declared attacks from Ahunts in one coe.
1. Agburanar Ahunt.
2. Bairanax Ahunt.
3. Daelomin Ahunt.
At the moment when company is facing attack from Daelomin Ahunt, coe that created that attack is not fully resolved.
So what? "...the event has done its job, so to speak." cannot be applied here?
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Unfortunately AFAIK there are no other cards/situations that would evidently prove or disprove of validity of CoE#28.
Ready to His Will and Memories of Old Torture both removes attacker (creature) and cancel attacks.
And it again is not obvious what exactly happens here.
a) "cancel" and "creature becomes an ally" are separate actions.
b) "cancel" is post-effect of absence the creature in play.

One thing seems to be obvious (for me) - "cancel" and "creature becomes an ally" are simultaneous. Otherwise after "All attacks of creature are cancelled" creature card would be discarded thus target of "the creature becomes an ally" would be not available.

Possibly the interpretation of one situation will have impact on interpretation of other situations of that class.
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