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On-guard Time Travel?

Postby miguel » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:37 am

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Re: On-guard Time Travel?

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:34 pm

cc from Weariness of the Heart precedes declaration of playing item.
So if there is no character that taps to play item the whole declaration is not correct.
I would opt for rollback - incorrectly declared cards should return to hand (or to place from they were coming).

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Weak (because no technical) argument - it would be small compensation for inability to respond to the declaration of on-guard.
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Re: On-guard Time Travel?

Postby miguel » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:43 pm

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Re: On-guard Time Travel?

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:23 pm

It is not clear whether "successfully" applies only to the "faced the automatic-attack", or both to the "faced the automatic-attack" and "played an item".

Of course, they made check. Why not?
Regardless of such or another timing Weariness of the Heart causes a corruption check.

Sorry. I do not see a point.
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Re: On-guard Time Travel?

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Re: On-guard Time Travel?

Postby Konrad Klar » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:43 pm

People are doing many strange things. Common practice, for example, is tapping in support to 1st cc from Lure of Nature, then (if character with Lure of Nature is still in play), tapping another character in support. Instead of tapping all characters assigned to support in response to all cc from the Lure of Nature.
But who care about people?

If you want to make a deal with people and want to encourage them to respecting rules, then make errata to the "declared and resolved immediately".
In current state an on-guards causing cc are so powerful as would be a corruption cards if they could be played in response to cc.
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Re: On-guard Time Travel?

Postby miguel » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:13 am

Yeah I think an amendment to the "declared and resolved immediately" CRF entry would be necessary. I mean, the entry works really well for all the other cards, right? It's just with short-events like Weariness that create an action instead of a condition where the timing fails. So cards like that should be dealt with in another manner, probably give them their own chain of effects that needs to be resolved right away, even in the middle of another chain (or something similar)? Are there any other cards with this problem than the few short-events forcing a CC?
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